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William
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Posted on 29/05/2005 at 10:22 PM.Send to a friend Send a Private Message View Profile Quote this User
Chaps I've been searching for 60 degree jig hooks in the shops I frequent - no luck yet. Plenty of 90 degree hooks available - bought a box and tried to bend one open a little but it snapped off just at the 90 degree corner. Maybe the 90 degree ones work just as well even though they look a bit odd - I'll give it a try anyway. Kinda like the upside down approach I've been experimenting with lately - just by bending normal SS long shanks up a tad near the eye - it gives the fly a sexy wiggle and the hook is far better concealed in the fly body with the pointy bit where the fish bites rather than hanging way below the actual target of the bite.

If anyone spots any 60 degree jig hooks in the shops anywhere please give me a yell.

They've been mentioned on Dan Blanton's board and here is a link to another good thread on them:
http://www.stripersonline.com/ubb547/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/4182.html

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Posted on 30/05/2005 at 06:10 AM.Send to a friend Send a Private Message View Profile Quote this User
I believe the Alpine Angler have them in stock.




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Posted on 30/05/2005 at 08:52 AM.Send to a friend Send a Private Message View Profile Quote this User
William, half dozen 3/0 60 degree hooks on their way to you.




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Posted on 31/05/2005 at 03:03 PM.Send to a friend Send a Private Message View Profile Quote this User
William,

I have been using the Eagle Claw 60 degree hooks for a while. I have sizes 2, 1, 1/0 and 2/0 and big bob at West Gosford Bait and Tackle has some in the same sizes. If you want some to play with let me know via email.....

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Posted on 31/05/2005 at 03:32 PM.Send to a friend Send a Private Message View Profile Quote this User
Guys you are so generous with your assistance

Lionel I have those hooks you sent in hand - just the thing I was looking for.

David thanks for the lead on West Gosford - I shall raid their stocks ASAP Now that fly you have in the pic above - is it weighted at all? And if not does it behave itself okay in the water?

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Posted on 31/05/2005 at 03:45 PM.Send to a friend Send a Private Message View Profile Quote this User
Excuse the ignorance guys - but what advantages to the above mentioned hooks have over the standard straight shanks??





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George the fly rides with hook up - like a clouser. Even clousers ride better on these hooks and can be tied with lighter dumbells to still get upside down effect. Relatively snag-free. The hook is also better concealed in the fly material - more realistic presentation to wise fish. The hook point is nearer the bite point i.e. in the centre of the fly's body rather than riding below / in front of main bite target. In the thread on Stripers Online they are claiming more cleaner hookups (on striped bass I presume) - although the amount of data hardly makes it a scientific fact yet - nevertheless it seems logical when you look at a fly tied on one of these hooks.

Some of the flies I've been experienting with (just bending long shank hooks into roughly this shape) produce an extra little side-to-side shimmy on a jerky retrieve. Reproducing this effect consistently on each fly still needs some work - I'm hoping the consistency and slightly shorter shank on these hooks will cut down the variables so I can get the effect consistant. Also an upsidedown pattern I'm working on seems to hold some promise in minimising tail-wrap.

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PS: Apologies for repeating myself




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Message edited by William on 01/06/2005 at 09:46 AM
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Posted on 31/05/2005 at 08:19 PM.Send to a friend Send a Private Message View Profile Quote this User
William - don't apologise - your input's greatly appreciated.

Hmmm....might have to tie a few myself now and give 'em a go.

Cheers buddy!!

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no worries william, good to see you got them.
looking forward to seeing the results!




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Posted on 01/06/2005 at 08:31 AM.Send to a friend Send a Private Message View Profile Quote this User
william.

i run a strip of lead under the shank (.035 diameter), especially on larger flies to stop them spinning. it is also important to make sure that the bulk of the material is under the hook or it will tend to go on it's side or flip over when not being stripped.

the clousers look & work great. especially the rattle clousers...... the lizards love em.....

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Posted on 01/06/2005 at 10:06 AM.Send to a friend Send a Private Message View Profile Quote this User
david that fly looks sweet - the proportions look great - perfect "shrimpy / fishy" suggestive something or other that you want to go down and puff up some sand to excite the flatties. i can imagine a mini version of that fly fooling a few bream and possibly even whiting. i notice (at least it looks so in the pic) that the dumbell is on the inside ie topside of upsidedown shank. i wonder if there is any merit in putting the dumbell on the other side - that would bugger the proportions a bit but it may negate the need for the extra lead. i'll try a few both ways and see what happens.

btw one of the inspirations for all this 60 degree stuff is the sellers sst on dan blantons hot flies section:
http://www.danblanton.com/sststory.html
personally i like the idea of concealing the hook more than on the sst but it has so much else going for it that perhaps it doesn't make a big difference.

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Message edited by William on 01/06/2005 at 10:07 AM
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